Windows installer unresponsive

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slutty OP

Also tried v3.2.0 and v3.1.4.
Same result.
Blank icon in the task bar is also suspicious.

Martin Reading (CRYO-GEN)

What Firewall/antivirus are you running

slutty OP

No firewall, just onboard Windows AV

slutty OP

Task Manager says no response for Setup/Uninstall and the sub task

slutty OP

I have a PiHole running in the LAN but disabling that did not help either

Martin Reading (CRYO-GEN)

Can you kill those setup tasks start from scratch and post screenshots of what you see at each stage

slutty OP

Well... as I said... nothing visible, so nothing to screen shot really.
I double-klick the Setup.exe, the UAC comes up, I confirm, then: nothing.

slutty OP

I am happy to screen shot anything helpful if you let me know what exactly you want me to share. Are there any logs anywhere I can share?

pierotofy

Maybe too simple, but did you try rebooting the computer?

slutty OP

I restarted many times. Doesn't help with this issue.

slutty OP

Is there a "manual" way to install? I am stuck.

pierotofy

Although I'd be curious to know why the setup gets stuck, I'm not sure why that would ever happen (AV software being the only suspect, but you mentioned you have the Windows one, which usually behaves correctly)

slutty OP

Where does WebODM normally install to? What's the folder it tries to create in Windows?

pierotofy

C:\WebODM (but the setup should open and ask you which drive you want to install to), so could be D:\WebODM, E:\WebODM, ...

slutty OP

I thought it might have something to do with an error message I get from the docker desktop installer, but I don't see C:\WebODM or anything similar.
Apparently UAC does not handle this correctly and I have to take ownership of the folder manually and I thought maybe that's what is keeping the WebODM installer from doing anything.

slutty OP

Eventually, the manual docker installation worked as documented. However, the WebODM installer issue remains unresolved for me. If anyone wants me to run test/logs let me know.

WoodGuy

I am having the same issue

pierotofy

So it just hangs after double-clicking the setup exe? Do you have any AV/security software that might be blocking / aggressively scanning?

WoodGuy

I run malwarebytes and windows defender, but the presence of malwarebytes seems to disable defender. When I look at the system, the setup is actually using cpu but there is no indication of what it is doing. I let it run overnight and this morning I can still run the old version of webodm.

pierotofy

maybe it's malwarebytes

WoodGuy

I can turn it off - I wonder what the installer is doing with 4.1% cpu though?

pierotofy Best answer

Usually that doesn't do it. AV software (apart from Defender) is undistinguishable from malware itself. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/defender/antivirus-and-antimalware-software-faq

Microsoft security software protects you against malware, spyware, adware, and other unwanted software; you don't need to install any other real-time antivirus or antispyware software.

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WoodGuy

Well I killed the setup disabled malwarebytes and re ran the setup - behavior is the same

pierotofy

It's not the installer; AV software intercepts file I/O operations, scans, then trips and hangs when there's too many files. And WebODM has a lot of files

WoodGuy

Do I need to disable defender also?

pierotofy

No defender is usually fine

pierotofy

it's other AV software that is often at fault

pierotofy

uninstall it if you can, or try on a machine that doesn't have AV software (apart from Defender)

WoodGuy

Well I think the only thing left to try is to uninstall webodm and run the latest installer again

WoodGuy

OKJ- I can try it on another machine - worth a shot

WoodGuy

on another machine the installer runs properly and I get to see all the dialogs whereas on the machine I need it on, I get no dialogs past the UAC.

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WoodGuy

OK - I will uninstall and try a clean install on this system.

WoodGuy

same behavior - I guess I will try a docker install

WoodGuy

Docker install fine, though I would like to debug the native win install

WoodGuy

yes I do and yes one is disconnected

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WoodGuy

Many thanks for that - the install now works.

pierotofy

So just to confirm, it worked after you reconnected the network drive?

WoodGuy

actually I just eliminated all network drives before installing. I guess the setup was in a loop trying to find the capacity of all the disks.

WoodGuy

btw - the software is amazing - great piece of work.

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pierotofy

Would you be able to provide some more details about the network drives? Are these normal shared folders? (can you attach a screenshot of the "My PC" screen when the drives are disconnected and the installer doesn't run?) I can't seem to be able to replicate the problem, but would love to fix the installation issue

WoodGuy

I'll see if I can replicate the problem.

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WoodGuy

OK - I have replicated the problem. To summarize: The installer runs, UAC window appears, I respond yes. The installer then appears in the taskbar and is consuming CPU, but no dialogs appear as would be the normal case. This what the disk layout looks like when the problem occurs:

WoodGuy

The networked drive state is not strictly the same as it was when I was encountering the failure before. To replicate this, I created 3 shares on another system, used "net use" to connect to them on my system and then on the remote system, I "unshared" them. Previously the disconnected state was the result of connections not being restored after a restart.

WoodGuy

If there is anything else you would like me to try, let me know. I could, for example, reconnect one or more of the shares and try the install again.

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pierotofy

Thanks for the steps and the screenshots, this helps a lot. Hopefully I can reproduce this and write a fix 🙏

WoodGuy

🙂 well if anyone can.......

WoodGuy

for what it's worth, I tried and earlier version of the installer (2.0.3) and it hangs the same way.

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pierotofy

It seems to be tied to the enumeration of the drives logic, so that the installer can recommend a drive to install to. But I've tried replicating a network drive disconnect scenario, and I can't seem to reproduce the freeze. It's strange, maybe there's other factors at play

WoodGuy

Well this won't help, but I repeated the exercise trying disconnected network drives using the same process I described earlier with 1, 2, 3 and 4 drives and I could not get it to fail. I was wondering if the capacity of the disconnected network drive might be a trigger, but it seems not to be the case.

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